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The Bardo of Macon Hasty

being a novelettic rant and a bardo story.

No one wants war.

I wrote this some years back, rewrote other parts. It includes a part about 'the festerbog' which is a federal perserve for people who have anthropomorphed into creatures of the pill-pot scrum. They go silthering off into the festerbog, near the paisley house. In the seat of governance of that fictional world.

But then one night, in the middle of the night, there was horrible news out of LA. A journalist who I had never known about consciously (but who I am now sure that I had encountered in Burlington, VT on Church street some festive evening, when he had a new book out, he was the only person there in a suit. I was there working my camera. He noticed me, wanted to know what was up with me, was interested, watched me (that is what journalists do). But it might have been someone else, couldn't it have been? So, but, then, you know. Here I am stammering and I don't edit the draft but publish and edit later. In any case Mr. H was a guy who had gone the route of trying to infiltrate the power establishments and become somehow important within that. But the story had holes. His whole story has some issues with it, including details that must be there for real people to be dead and gone. They had to have been there first. But who can tell? Change your identity? If you were a deep plant spy, third or forth generation?

I had already written a lengthy piece about the festerbog, and how a person who had been a journalist had been subvertted to being a press submissive. I hinted at 'lurid tails' (because some of them had become lizzards) lurid tales of lurid tails.

So he's blown up, and he has to make it back to his special whereever, a rule of bardo in this genre of story. I take my tradition from Saint John and from Dickens: there are spirits and angels who guide us with in the bardo, aren't there, in that kind of story. Do you ave them in your real life? Are we all within a Matrix? Santa knows, ho ho ho, he's been watching you . . . what you did last Summer.

His story compelled me. I became obcessed with the tale of him, and I did read and see a lot about him, on line, etc. And what I discovered is that answers weren't going to be coming. If he were really just a persona, and it had been exited from the stage, then he'd still be around somewhere, the real him. It seemed as though marriage is often an alliance in some sesen, just as a method to guarantee a certain kind of legacy. So we were never going to get at his notes, nor be able to read his journals, or to know in any real way what his real purpose here in this mortal plane is, and what he was trying to accomplish. What struck me is that he seemed to be all the way on the inside of an important hive of people, and suddenly thrown down from (a false) heaven and then so quickly reported to be dead on the street in a spectacular way that was really very hollywood, but inauthenic as an actual crash, because the car he was in has a very well known reputation for being safe, and also the way that the event occured is said by many experts in those kinds of crashes to be . . . in authentic. However, given the speed of the impact, and the giant things around there, ready to rip at an undercarriage, it's a road that is neglected in some sense in order to allow for a lower speed limit. Death was (alledged) to be sudden.

And so then, after having been close to certain power-mongers high in their positions, he became a sudden turncoat, as if he'd been a naive before and didn't know the kind of pool he'd be swimming in. From being a toad for power in one sense, to be an expose writer about spies (who don't like being put under examination) and always having a lurid tale or two to tell, and his book had some parts that were rather inauthentic. Sad about his first love. But some might say explotative to be writing about her like that unless . . . well they weren't married so he had no rights to her story, and her inside personal narrative. In any case there it was a person with very many flaws who had moved into the lifestyle of the flawed power structure, people who feel that the world is ready to condemn them because, well, clearly the life style is cringe-worthy. And it's the kind of sinful life that people who are there, deep in it, don't even think that it is sinning anymore. They have ceased, in some sense, to be human anymore in a meaningful way that works at the school and the market. They say things like "I'll destroy you . . . " like CC Babcock just before her breakdown (in The Nanny. We are supposed to know that such 'lines' are the indication of a deep and disturbed person who can be redeemed through love (which Max and Fran did for CC). But in the world of the festerbog . . . and I am clear that it's a fiction but . . . I couldn't go on with it because it's just so unfair, in one sense, to call people reptiles.

But they don't have to just be reptiles. And so I took the fiction to the place that it was a preserve because it was best to contain those kinds of strange creatures. And perhaps I'd inserted a Japonese word that means that, in loose translation.

The strange creatures of japanese literature, film, cartoon, anime, are often portrayed as origionally victims of technology misapplied in a grand tragedy. But even though these creature are huge and very different from what we expect, and seeming to be terrifying, we find out that they are usually very simple to understand and often work in unison for the greater good and against the evil of action as we see from misguided force of some other strange creature, just doing as instinct demands. It's a giant mutated creature being in type for the smaller versions of itself. All of this is accommpannied with stunning graphics, interesting sound effects, and pandering to archtypes of Japanese society. And all within the span of a motion picture.

The strange creatures of the fester bog? They get there by chemically being converted over to a submissive stance and being basically sycophantic in nature, they are willingly lead down into the bog, and it complete their anthropomorphic transformation into something other than fully human.

But not to be blamed, and can be changed back, still human but living within a subset of behaviors at the whim of . . . and the villain of the story? I guess I was lax on describing that. I was trying to treat it all like they were wild animals, their behaviors not fully understood, but the ones that we see in the light of day, that would be used as evidence as to how to behave around them. All of it still fiction.

Boom. Story explodes in the news. Someone dies too young. My story writing changed over to a bardo story of a spirit who might not be a spirit, coming back to Vermont (of bardo) to try and pick up the pieces of his life and get on to the next destination, where ever that is, maybe to meet his love who died in Bahgdad?

But on-message story, where truth and fiction are interchangible, and 'players' can be put into very many different roles, someone who was 'blown up' may have just had their identity changed. Or why, if he's a spirit doesn't he meet her as a spirit? Or why does he imagine such thoughts about his wife and his ex fiancee . . . he makes it up and then it seems to come true and everyone is looking for him but nobody sees him and he goes to all the cliche Vermont locations, but he never ever feels like he's arrived home. And then he has to cross the great water on the ferry in the fog, which is an allegory for the journey to the other life (the ferry man asks for a penny) and his host, the writer of the story, starts to get annoyed with him. he's not dead, he's just on a bad vacation.

Though that little memoir has about 260 pages worth of writing, I did loose interest in the story because it occured to me that . . . But explaining all that would probably be a spoiler. By the end of the piece I'd probably explain myself. And the outcome? that would be a spoiler. It is, after all, a fiction. I know nothing about Washington politics on the inside of the hive. I know nothing about the man who was M, I have no answers, I have a lot of questions that really don't need answers.

No one wants war.

11:26 AM EST

19 Oct 2016





The whole crowd
is getting 
jiggity-oh

ewe ah
ewe ah
ewe ah
ewe ah
  


Rock and Roll wins the Peace Prize
Praise the Lord for all Alive!

The humble poet plays his song astage,
a vain rockstar really.

vainity is the trait that makes him great
in his humility.

Contridictions don't make anysense at all
but it often seems to come out that way.

The thing about phrasing words,
is that the phrasing doesn't have to make sense,
and the statements, alided, might be contridictions,
but people figure it out.

Poetry
isn't a contract
no one says you have to
no one sends you to a prison
in real life by poem.

In this poetic moment
"you've been served!" slap!


At times
when it's raining
he feels poetically sad
and great gloom poems
drift down the river valley
on Jack's Birthday
I'd call to you
but I wouldn't want to bother you
in a solemn moment
or chase you
with your old art recordings,
the cover of a song
the way the sky looked
in 1963
not finding anything
in eyes (a concept not mine)



With the fading day
he's got his hum going on
no telling
what kind of night it's going to be.
This town 
at twilight
glows like a jack-o-lantern,
October
rain
poets walk the sidewalk
visiting the nostolgia
that we once held as dear.


When you rake leaves
if you don't put them in a barrol
or a bag
or a box
or wrap them up in a tarp
they'll blow away
all your work wasted
unless they are wet with rain,
stomped upon by rattling feet
school yard, 
play yard,
farmers field
old stone walls
waste places aside the orchard
where the foxes have holes
and the birds of the air
make temporary perches
huddled together by the storm.


My poetry is trapped
in some past dream of you,
a blanket,
some matches,
a roll of stamps.
He had them, she'd used some of them.
They were old.


If you trap your mind in a box
outside of process
and leave it there for atime
necessary meditation
the song might go on for a while.
You're not playing it in your mind anymore.
My poetyr is more like talking to myself,
or the crowd talking to itself.
A sudden distraction,
a big wind blowing in
thunder booming lightning
and no one remembers the words to the song
the spell is now broken
we can't expect the people to piece all the old potshards back together.

What I wanted from her
I got from the other one,
she was kinder,
more fragile,
but I never thought to be mean
and break her.
She wouldn't have been broken
elastic.

When you're mean to me
it's all just a reflection
of what you want for yourself,
what you think you really deserve,
no one really wants it,
don't treat anyone like that.


If the play had gone on
he wasn't going to be able to sit there for very much longer.
The band had some insturments out of tune.
He wanted to put his fingers in his ears.
If the sound had been louder
He'd have dashed off for the exits.

But listen to the sermon
that you don't agree with
and realize the grief,
follow along.
Soon the service will be over
you can dash off to your car
out of the 100 degree heat
and change out of these sticky clothes.
summer attire.


If the tire isn't full
it takes more gas to drive to Maine.
I don't drive to Maine anymore,
don't have any friends there anymore.
If I go for a driver
I'd like the car ready
I don't go for a drive
conserve my desires, 
rushing off to no where
doesn't lead me anywhere but home
so why go anywhere?

But we need to sometimes,
we all have our own pilgrimages,
keep it holy,
take a vacation
to the Vacation State.



Unmongering




 
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 it's a due dang diggy
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 I know
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Be your own Nememsis

Instead of trying to attack and destroy the people who you imagine have deep held fallacies that you loath, do that to yourself and attack the fallacy that you ahve the right or obligation to do such an attack on some other person. Be your own worst enemy in the sense that when you deserve to loose the debate, your own best interests will kick in and demand that you adhere to truth and reject fallacy and thus loose, in one sense, but win a much better future in every other sense. Be your own nemesis and demand that you adhere to the values that matter, and give truth and only truth as testimony with in the courts of great importance.

But even that inner skeptic needs his voice tamed. Sometimes overthinking things results in mission failure. Sometimes it really is time to launch and hesitation is mission failure. With some things, like nuclear weapons, any launch or use, or even testing or development of them is mission failure. It is societal failure of the gravest kind. The use of these devices is well known to be taboo. Even discussin their use or none use, like this here, can only be presented by the friendliest of expectations.

Replace Your Own Bad ideas

Instead of trying to replace the bad ideas of your readers for some fowl paid-for message, and being a shill, replace your own fallacies with truth and be of the future.

Sept 19, 2016




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If I could write 
show tunes
in the past
everybody'd be dancing
Even the band, with their
big drums
would be marching through


Hollywood songs
on a mobile stage
banging a gong
reciting a sage
Travelling show
where does it go?

everyone's singing along
come on home
she's tripping, 

The lights light up the whole scene
the train station,
the bus stop
the taxk stand
and the midnight
rock club.

If I could write show tunes
in the past
I'd have to invent
a time machine
I'd have to invent
a time machine
I'd have to invent
a time machine

Let Hollywood be
your time machine
Let Hollywood be
your time machine
Everybody'd be 
dancing

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Let Hollywood be
your time machine
Let Hollywood be
your time machine
Everybody'd be 
dancing

woo ewwe

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Political and Media Inanity

Kafka wrote comedy. Orwell was a pessimist. Depends who you ask.

by Truck-u-later

Truck-u-later

in this column Truck-u-later steps in deeper . . .

I'm weary of the election, so I'm not going to write about who to vote for. If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't want to addle you anymore than the season addles. The viciousness and slander of politics is a horror to behold. I canceled my cable to do away with the constant drone of fowl on-message parroting by the swacking-head press.

Let's not have a war.

Oct 17, 2016

tell us how you really feel . . .

Billion dollar car-ride, they are driving me too far!

Delete Kruft.

. . . well . . . Truck-you-later!


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August Tomatoes

In the back yard!

It's August. People are harvasting their tomatoes. Other people don't have any tomatoes. The chipmunks will eat every single one while it's still very tiny. You need a fortified and fenced in garden.

9:12 AM EST
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Aug 29, 2022

Greetings from tree shaded yard!

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for insight
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Praise the Lord for insight given!



Fix your self and the world gets fixed around you


as an example . . . I have tried to do some introspective things as I come into awareness of my own flaws, and recognize the way I act and correct my self and make a better narrative for myself and for others.




you raise me up
from far away
when a memory
of you
lifts me!



Somethings never change
nothing need stay the same
ah, but on a website
the constant change
 is kind-of the point . . . 

change without continuity and tradition is often very hard to manage for those thrust into it. And thus the frame of things gives a place for the change to happen. If you violate that idea then you are coming up with something completely different and maybe no one will want to see your new idea, or use your great, new venue, because it's too far out, and very far away from what they currently care about. It's a nether or a meta and it's merely for a lark? Or does it become the next big thing? As fun as graphics are (CGI) and animation, and making a world to fly around in (like minetest, which is easy when you learn how) ultimately such a meta is a hollow place. It's a distraction during the season of gaming. It allows one to brush up on geometry and math, and architectural design, it gives people training in computer languages, it allows someone to make some graphical ideas, and pass a few hours of time every few days or so . . .

To live within such a realm really isn't possible.

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The raging ocean at Bear's Neck, Rockport, Massachusetts, during a NorEaster.  Jan 5, 2010, Copyright 2010
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Winter would be wonderful
and cold
within the light of dusk
at the sunset hillock
in the woodland town
where the lakes have froze






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Poem Shards

just who reads, who writes these poems?
off a mountain road the poet roams
but only in a poem.

Realizing that the empty 
is empty
and not needing anything there.

just who shows up and for what?
I'm lonely or am alone or what does it matter?
driving off towards the nothing
walking along the nowhere path
up high
sure, it's a pretty view
but seen it, done it, jaded, back to the air port
he flew
his fantasy of happy vacation was through.


The deep snow.

The deep snow. She doesn't know how deep. She didn't think about it. Depth of snow no one know in rills and hollows where you shouldn't go when the storm is fierce and the night is cold even you shouldn't be so bold. poem is from 2012 short story titled Blizzard Baby The morning light is hued in cold awareness. Warming in the sun the bunny explores the snow covered lawn. The tracks melt by mid morning. Bunny doesn't know what the song means, anyway. This giant bubble that we call awareness? How could it have been formed? Seemingly hollow, it's filled up with you reading this and wondering where does this idle poet get his idle hours to spew out this bubble web of hollowness? 🚦 🚧 🚨 🚩 🚪 🚫 🚬 🚭 🚮 🚯 🚰 🚱 🚲 🌛 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 sometimes there is beauty within the fragments . . . 🌜🌜🌜🌝🌛🌛🌛 Sprongg . . . onng . . . ongg ga Her tired morning seems more like poetry than anything you can find on a blog. Bark Bark. Bark Bark. Tree Bark Bark. Bark Bark. Dog 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 Woof and woe🌝 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 Space Ship snowman floats off towards Billy Perilli, writer of all of the things on this blog. 🌜🌜🌜🌝🌛🌛🌛

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Coders Edge

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Fedora 40

After 40 different versions what can one say about it anymore? It's installed in all my systems, a day earlier. There are a few minor issues, but no show stoppers.

I did some stuff with lvm to resize a root area. That took a very long time. It's on a machine that maybe just should be retired . . .


April 22, 2024
12:02 PM

Fedora Core 38 beta

Ya, I decided to load Fedora Core 38 Beta about a month ago, and this machine kept shutting down . . . I think I finally fixed it. Tomorrow is the big release day for the Fedora Core 38. My production workstation is still running FC37. I don't know if I'll jump right on it right away. . .

my server is still resetting, or maybe I have it fixed. I decided to just remove plasma-desktop, as I don't use it. The journals were giving all kinds of errors with that, and I think that might have been the issue, conflicting with the gdm that I do use. Worst case I'd just go to runlevel 3 but, as I said in another column, I don't really even know if anyone views these pages anyway.

My production box would upgrade but the dnf says it would downgrade grum and associated tools, and that's never a good thing to do. I'm just not going to do it! anyway I'll check tomorrow when the offical release is and probably do it then. If I'm in the mood.

So now I've run every version of Fedora serving this website! that's a long time.


April 17, 2023 8:28 PM EST


here is from a year ago:

Fedora Core 36 beta

It took some time to figure out how to defeat the new screensaver built in, but I was able to. It's the biggest downside to the new Gnome.

I set the keybindings to something I don't use, and then put in a custom keybinding to use the old tool.

There are other minor things that annoy too, like the restoration of a deleted file that I always have to delete again on every FC core upgrade. The file is name camera-shutte.oga. It's in /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo

1:12 AM EST 9 April, 2022 

At the precipice of coding.

a mountain trail often has a place with a great view and a perilous fall if you wonder just a bit too far to one side of the trail. It's called a precipice. It's not a scary place. It's a safe place that one passes through.


OK, so I've done an update to FC34.

the biggest issue was . . . . drum roll . . .a lock up of gnome.

and if i clicked on the activities button I would need to reload (log out log back in).

I was able to run stuff without that, and thus determined a list of files that might need to be removed. I did as full reinstall of gnome as such:

dnf reinstall gnome

then I did a

dnf list installed |grep fc33

which gave me a list of files to consider uninstalling.

from that I got the following:

first odd issue:

sudo was not at first working! I had to install it! I kept the configuration file so I have my preferences still set up.

dnf install sudo                                                                                                                                                                          dnf reinstall gnome-*                                                                                                                                                                       dnf reinstall kde*                                                                                                                                                                          dnf reinstall NetworkManager*                                                                                                                                                               dnf remove gnome-screensaver                                                                                                                                                               dnf remove gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-20.04.0-2.fc33.noarch                                                                                                                       dnf remove xorg-x11-xkb-extras-7.7-33.fc33.x86_64                                                                                                                                          dnf remove compat-openssl10-1:1.0.2o-11.fc33.x86_64                                                                                                                                        dnf remove mozjs60-60.9.0-7.fc33.x86_64                             

there are still some fc33 packages, (I also looked for fc32 packages, anything older that was gnome)

sudo dnf list installed |grep fc33
biber.noarch                                         2.14-4.fc33                            @fedora               
gamin.x86_64                                         0.1.10-37.fc33                         @fedora               
libgta.x86_64                                        1.0.9-5.fc33                           @fedora 

if removing a package also removed large numbers of other packages, I left it. For each of the few that I did remove, I always would make sure by reading what would happen before agreeing to the transaction.

now the gnome-shell is working and it doesn't lock up. So which of the packages that I removed made the difference? I am not sure.

and so after just a few short hours of install, I've got my system working in away that seems normal.

the new gnome shell moves the icons to the bottom of the screen.

I find gnome-shell to be annoyingly poppy at times. I tend to do things rapidly, and all the popping can be nauseating.

It is helpful to learn how to use dnf. I've found that the reverse history stuff works as long as you haven't made too many changes. It's a dicey, though, to try and go back to an older revision but I did it ONCE. Next time it didn't work out so well. AT that point it was installing dnf and yum from rpms.

and I had success. It's the kind of thing that when you know how to do it . . .

but there was one other trick that I needed and it was a scary way to reset a password and I did discover how to do it. I'm not sharing that one (barely remember) it's like these things exist in a nether, and it's best to . . . let the knowledge fade unless you need it. It's too scary to dwell in that space.

anyway, gnome shell is working. It's not flighty and hanging up. And all it took was to remove the old packages of gnome that might conflict with it. And now I can continue with my review.


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