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And did he ever even get to that part about 'helmet safety' and that the guy in the photo wasn't wearing one?

Oh, no, yet another topic for the echo factory to pretend that people care about and repeat over and over.

 
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Be nice to yourself and others. What other choice?

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Autumn Harvast Moon

Sept 8, 2014

Big pretty moon in the sky last night with clouds billowing. I went out and took some photographs.

Supermoon, Sept 7, 2014 from Natick., 2014 © APC

When photographing The Moon, as it is very bright in relationship to the rest of the picture, one must take special care with the settings. Using a tripod is helpful. This picture was without a tripod, so I choose a very fast shutter speed. The picture is also transformed after, cropped, resized, and then the color curves were modified.

My town has a pretty lake with easy access. It's a good place to collect the light of the sky and lake. I like going over there for a photo-walk. Here is a photo from the other day:

Lake Cochituate sunset, Sept , 2014 at Natick. 2014 © APC

Yes, there is a certain accidental quality to doing a set of transformations on an image. The transformation that works for one image might not work for a different one. But when an image is of a set, say pictures of the same thing, photos taken with similar lighting conditions, at almost the same time, then if the transformation works for one, then it probably will work for many.

When I say 'does the transfromation work' but what I mean is 'does it make an interesting image'. Well, that is of course, subjective. There are so many things to consider about transformations and what they reveal. Details that the naked eye doesn't readily discern often pop out from a transformation. One can create masks for the image and then make even more coplex images from that by doing layering with masks and partial images.

Automating this makes it even easier, and mask creation lickity split. There is a wide and vast field ripe for planting in these endevours both for art and for surveylance.

Here are some pictures of Boston from earlier in the Summer:

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Some of the transformations can give the buildings in the photograph a 'Mars Hotel' quality. Mars Hotel is the name of a record album from a band from the 1970's. They were very famous and important for the not-60's generation. Their music and art was very well enjoyed and fully appreciated in their day by throngs (yes, throngs). Back then there would be giant street festivals of young people about a City venue, on the street, on the side streets, up and down the avenue. And it was all kept cool. It was not quite as ritualized as Bread-n-Puppet (from Glover VT) nor was it as wild as Burning Man (a West Coast thing). The travelling road show that was the Greatful Dead did make waves in people's lives. That band would show up for two or three days, say, in Providence R.I. and the freak flag would be waving from the railings of the parking garage. Transformative dancing and revelry into the wee hours. And the cops, after a time, got to understand that most of these folks were not wanting to be trouble-makers. All in all it didn't suck.

These images are also useful for other purposes too which ought to be obvious to anyone who has studied data arrays and the information that can be available in pictures. Anyone who knows about binary code could come up with some kind of algorithmatic parsing up of the image to allow for transmission of the bit outside the normal channel, like a boat, on a river, that you see floating down and you notice something about it. Something strange and then . . . kaboom. More on that down the page. In the meantime, here is a closeup of a building from one of the other pictures:

closeup of building with Mars Hotel effect, Greenway near the Fed Building, Boston, 2014 © APC closeup of building with Mars Hotel effect, Greenway near the Fed Building, Boston, 2014 © APC closeup of building with Mars Hotel effect, Greenway near the Fed Building, Boston, 2014 © APC closeup of building with Mars Hotel effect, Greenway near the Fed Building, Boston, 2014 © APC closeup of building with Mars Hotel effect, Greenway near the Fed Building, Boston, 2014 © APC

Can you say 'datagram', ma'am? It's poetic because it rhymes. In any case, interesting effects. A building could be used as a datagram. If you could control all of the lights of the building you could use the building, itself, as a data-frame. Pretty cool.


my meanie moon moon
is bitter at the cost of his loss
his special other moon-faced lover
has waltzed off in orbit with another.

The meanie moon moon is crying.
it is June.
He feels like his heart is dieing.
volcanos of endless sighing
brillient in full photo zoom
the fabric of his loss as if it's crafted on a loom
of fortune fair or fowl
He orbits off with a scowl.

It ended too soon
the sight of his swoon, lovers in arms of each other.
but not in his room.






my meanie moon moon
is bitter at the cost of his loss
his special other moon-faced lover
has waltzed off in orbit of another.

The meanie moon moon is crying in June.
It ended too soon
the sight of his swoon, lovers in arms of each other.
but no one in his.





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🌞 

 There are poems here.
 He counts them, one by one.
 Summer beach.
 far away storm.
 passed along the far horizon.
 big waves.
 heavy surf.
 Windsurfing.
 kite boarding fool on a pink bicycle.




  "If only he'd gotten hoverboo (TM) pink kite-cycle"
    "The amazing hover-boo pink kite-cycle would convert 
 your summer day into a wonderous escape
from right proper ottcis (papparazzi), by enabling the
hoverboo escape saucer features of the hoverboo line of
 deployable programable platform drodeones (drode-drove, drodedrone)
buzz
get onto the platform. let the saucer encircle around and create
 a cacoon of safety and then motor off to the hither-roo

    on your hoverboo flying platform drone.

 or experience the next generation of hoverboo technology:
the amazing hoverboo bailstrade. Imagine your wedding guests in
awe as the dancefloor whisks them away to the far away sky.
All the way to Yosemite Valley if you want, or to
Catalina Island, the amazing hoverboo bailarstrade is availble in a range
of floor types from oak drenched to maple supper. Make sure to consult
with our sails person specialists who will make sure to point out
that they are selling anything. They are designing a craft to let you
sail away. Oh the lame pun. 

Hoverboo, it's not just a ladder it's a flying saucer"
  



You could go into your
back yard
turn on the amazing Hover-boo (tm) awnings and
fly off to what ever beach you might like.

Hover your boo over the ocean and have a convenient 
diving dock.

Hover boo can be used to motor up
to the top
and put a star
for the Holidays
atop your favorite and
most remote tree.

And now with nex-gen anti-gravitational interlocking
as required by planetary codes on twelve of the thirty-tree gnome whirls.
known worlds?


She was listening to a half-hour long infomercial 
about the amazing hoverboo technology of platform-drones.

this was the show on after the show she was watching,
which she fell asleep during:

  False stories 
   of the 
 Extra terrestrials 
 from the future . . . 
  

if only she had gotten the amazing new
hoverboo chair. When she fell asleep
it would have floated her over to her bed and
rolled her over onto it
so she'd not have lay in the hoverboo alnight long.
Or
she'd be half way to the Santa Monica pier by now
because the hoverboo would have gone off on a manic
episode, it having got the I'm-human-giggles chip
that 'makes them human'.
The hoverboo chair had fallen in lvoe with her.
And even though she'd gone off to dance in the sky
on the hoverboo balastrade, the chair had followed
her there.
"Silly" she said
"I can't dance with a chair."

The chair got very jealous then
of the tall dark stranger
(from an old song) 
who was dancing with his one love.

At this point the story is lost because
someone had added in some parts that were
luid and not funny to the old editor so he had cut it off.

"I'm not letting you post that here.
If you want to post 
that kind of crap
go get your own website."



   
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🌞Shakespeare🌞
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Inanity -poetic?, may be mostly inane.


what we witness,
These things that we think we see,
may lack relevance.

why this now?
what future?
why such constant immediancy?




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Hey, you want to check out a cool page I've been working on today? It's also got a 'why don't we BASH for a while' explanation on automatic content generation utilizing the ubiquituos BASH shell. Here is a link

It's a fine page and it works in firefox. It can easily be modified to work in pretty much every browser that has CSS3, Javascript enabled.


moons in love  🌜🌛
maybe they spent the night out drinking
chumming out together
till the wee A.M.

They dance together
at the pier near the seals
and the seal seem to be
clapping a beat.

moons 

☾ 🌜🌛 ☾

up there on that cliff kissing they make their own light and they are in it. lovers in the moonlight of themselves dance off toward the morning light wake in bed together knowing it's all so awesome like an unexpected blossom every morning, every moment every thought of you. moons in love get to the church on time.

🌞 🌞 Good Morning Mr Sun Happy 🌞 some day it will all make sense doing good things people helping each other not too much, not too little. just enough
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Always in Need of editing

 

In Wicked Need of an Edit

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Political and Media Inanity
by Truck-u-later

Nothing this week except to say that dangerous amateurs can often become problematic. nuff-said

No one gets away with it for very long.

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"Can ya help me out, there, dude, I'm jonesing for some truth."

"You can help yourself to the truth. Just keep your mind open and when you find true love don't look for another and true love will stay"

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check back here later for more In Wicked Need of an edit


  . . . well . . . 
     Truck-you-later!

 Truck-u-later is a
 guest columnist.
 his views expressed are 
 thought bombs 
and should be
treated as artty
commentary,
 like everything 
at this site,
 and bascally
the whole Internet.

 
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Sept 4 2014.


  

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what say ye oh milkman-popup sprite?

Milkman red devil popup :

"Happy August!!"

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Music makes the difference!

his every song, a hymn his every song, a hymn him humming a hymn look, it's him. he's humming a hymn he wrote on a whim that every thing he'd ever sing would be a hymn Can't you see him humming a hymn? You can see him humming a hymn. and when he is later in front of the congregation no hemming or hawing or gack-jawing or words made up on a whim. by the time he's playing it he's already created it it's performed with percision. though written on a whim it's perfect. no slacking or lacking or way out back napping when it's time to get up in front and play his songs it's the power of love that propels him along. you can hum a hymn with him you can hum or sing go "dum de ding" with him he'll sing or play on whim he loves to give from within he loves to make the crowd dance incite romance give a unsure hopeful person another chance to dance at the ball in the community hall with great joy that comes to a brim when band is jamming the drummer slamming a rhythm he enjoys from within he's sharing it with the bopping crowd they music is well amplified but not too loud The music of the dance has a positive effect on loving romance the love that grows from within the crowd that he wants to be in the choirs of Heaven begin he'd be the first to blend in humming a hymn with him.

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my moonie moon moon moon
took his bicycle to the lagoon
and had a pencil drawing of a loon
as a cartoon
that he drew last June.



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August Tomatoes

In the back yard!

It's August. People are harvasting their tomatoes. Other people don't have any tomatoes. The chipmunks will eat every single one while it's still very tiny. You need a fortified and fenced in garden.

9:12 AM EST
Thursday
Aug 29, 2022

Greetings from tree shaded yard!

 Praise
     The
    Lord
for insight
   given!

Praise the Lord for insight given!



Fix your self and the world gets fixed around you


as an example . . . I have tried to do some introspective things as I come into awareness of my own flaws, and recognize the way I act and correct my self and make a better narrative for myself and for others.




you raise me up
from far away
when a memory
of you
lifts me!



Somethings never change
nothing need stay the same
ah, but on a website
the constant change
 is kind-of the point . . . 

change without continuity and tradition is often very hard to manage for those thrust into it. And thus the frame of things gives a place for the change to happen. If you violate that idea then you are coming up with something completely different and maybe no one will want to see your new idea, or use your great, new venue, because it's too far out, and very far away from what they currently care about. It's a nether or a meta and it's merely for a lark? Or does it become the next big thing? As fun as graphics are (CGI) and animation, and making a world to fly around in (like minetest, which is easy when you learn how) ultimately such a meta is a hollow place. It's a distraction during the season of gaming. It allows one to brush up on geometry and math, and architectural design, it gives people training in computer languages, it allows someone to make some graphical ideas, and pass a few hours of time every few days or so . . .

To live within such a realm really isn't possible.

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A butterbean, because the baby likes them. Buy a, poppa, poppa, The people said.




The raging ocean at Bear's Neck, Rockport, Massachusetts, during a NorEaster.  Jan 5, 2010, Copyright 2010
oh how the sea will rage in a Cape Ann Nor'Easter




Winter would be wonderful
and cold
within the light of dusk
at the sunset hillock
in the woodland town
where the lakes have froze






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    beginnings
    misting
    tired
    eyes
    with
    joyous
    hope
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Poem Shards

just who reads, who writes these poems?
off a mountain road the poet roams
but only in a poem.

Realizing that the empty 
is empty
and not needing anything there.

just who shows up and for what?
I'm lonely or am alone or what does it matter?
driving off towards the nothing
walking along the nowhere path
up high
sure, it's a pretty view
but seen it, done it, jaded, back to the air port
he flew
his fantasy of happy vacation was through.


The deep snow.

The deep snow. She doesn't know how deep. She didn't think about it. Depth of snow no one know in rills and hollows where you shouldn't go when the storm is fierce and the night is cold even you shouldn't be so bold. poem is from 2012 short story titled Blizzard Baby The morning light is hued in cold awareness. Warming in the sun the bunny explores the snow covered lawn. The tracks melt by mid morning. Bunny doesn't know what the song means, anyway. This giant bubble that we call awareness? How could it have been formed? Seemingly hollow, it's filled up with you reading this and wondering where does this idle poet get his idle hours to spew out this bubble web of hollowness? 🚦 🚧 🚨 🚩 🚪 🚫 🚬 🚭 🚮 🚯 🚰 🚱 🚲 🌛 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 sometimes there is beauty within the fragments . . . 🌜🌜🌜🌝🌛🌛🌛 Sprongg . . . onng . . . ongg ga Her tired morning seems more like poetry than anything you can find on a blog. Bark Bark. Bark Bark. Tree Bark Bark. Bark Bark. Dog 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 Woof and woe🌝 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 Space Ship snowman floats off towards Billy Perilli, writer of all of the things on this blog. 🌜🌜🌜🌝🌛🌛🌛

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Fedora 40

After 40 different versions what can one say about it anymore? It's installed in all my systems, a day earlier. There are a few minor issues, but no show stoppers.

I did some stuff with lvm to resize a root area. That took a very long time. It's on a machine that maybe just should be retired . . .


April 22, 2024
12:02 PM

Fedora Core 38 beta

Ya, I decided to load Fedora Core 38 Beta about a month ago, and this machine kept shutting down . . . I think I finally fixed it. Tomorrow is the big release day for the Fedora Core 38. My production workstation is still running FC37. I don't know if I'll jump right on it right away. . .

my server is still resetting, or maybe I have it fixed. I decided to just remove plasma-desktop, as I don't use it. The journals were giving all kinds of errors with that, and I think that might have been the issue, conflicting with the gdm that I do use. Worst case I'd just go to runlevel 3 but, as I said in another column, I don't really even know if anyone views these pages anyway.

My production box would upgrade but the dnf says it would downgrade grum and associated tools, and that's never a good thing to do. I'm just not going to do it! anyway I'll check tomorrow when the offical release is and probably do it then. If I'm in the mood.

So now I've run every version of Fedora serving this website! that's a long time.


April 17, 2023 8:28 PM EST


here is from a year ago:

Fedora Core 36 beta

It took some time to figure out how to defeat the new screensaver built in, but I was able to. It's the biggest downside to the new Gnome.

I set the keybindings to something I don't use, and then put in a custom keybinding to use the old tool.

There are other minor things that annoy too, like the restoration of a deleted file that I always have to delete again on every FC core upgrade. The file is name camera-shutte.oga. It's in /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo

1:12 AM EST 9 April, 2022 

At the precipice of coding.

a mountain trail often has a place with a great view and a perilous fall if you wonder just a bit too far to one side of the trail. It's called a precipice. It's not a scary place. It's a safe place that one passes through.


OK, so I've done an update to FC34.

the biggest issue was . . . . drum roll . . .a lock up of gnome.

and if i clicked on the activities button I would need to reload (log out log back in).

I was able to run stuff without that, and thus determined a list of files that might need to be removed. I did as full reinstall of gnome as such:

dnf reinstall gnome

then I did a

dnf list installed |grep fc33

which gave me a list of files to consider uninstalling.

from that I got the following:

first odd issue:

sudo was not at first working! I had to install it! I kept the configuration file so I have my preferences still set up.

dnf install sudo                                                                                                                                                                          dnf reinstall gnome-*                                                                                                                                                                       dnf reinstall kde*                                                                                                                                                                          dnf reinstall NetworkManager*                                                                                                                                                               dnf remove gnome-screensaver                                                                                                                                                               dnf remove gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-20.04.0-2.fc33.noarch                                                                                                                       dnf remove xorg-x11-xkb-extras-7.7-33.fc33.x86_64                                                                                                                                          dnf remove compat-openssl10-1:1.0.2o-11.fc33.x86_64                                                                                                                                        dnf remove mozjs60-60.9.0-7.fc33.x86_64                             

there are still some fc33 packages, (I also looked for fc32 packages, anything older that was gnome)

sudo dnf list installed |grep fc33
biber.noarch                                         2.14-4.fc33                            @fedora               
gamin.x86_64                                         0.1.10-37.fc33                         @fedora               
libgta.x86_64                                        1.0.9-5.fc33                           @fedora 

if removing a package also removed large numbers of other packages, I left it. For each of the few that I did remove, I always would make sure by reading what would happen before agreeing to the transaction.

now the gnome-shell is working and it doesn't lock up. So which of the packages that I removed made the difference? I am not sure.

and so after just a few short hours of install, I've got my system working in away that seems normal.

the new gnome shell moves the icons to the bottom of the screen.

I find gnome-shell to be annoyingly poppy at times. I tend to do things rapidly, and all the popping can be nauseating.

It is helpful to learn how to use dnf. I've found that the reverse history stuff works as long as you haven't made too many changes. It's a dicey, though, to try and go back to an older revision but I did it ONCE. Next time it didn't work out so well. AT that point it was installing dnf and yum from rpms.

and I had success. It's the kind of thing that when you know how to do it . . .

but there was one other trick that I needed and it was a scary way to reset a password and I did discover how to do it. I'm not sharing that one (barely remember) it's like these things exist in a nether, and it's best to . . . let the knowledge fade unless you need it. It's too scary to dwell in that space.

anyway, gnome shell is working. It's not flighty and hanging up. And all it took was to remove the old packages of gnome that might conflict with it. And now I can continue with my review.


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