The Whoppie / Pirro Tussle

Truth can seem very threatening.

Whoppie actually asked about 'the deep state.'

What set her off was the phrase 'trump derangement syndrome'. My guess is that Whoppie is very open minded and she has been defending the idea that maybe . . . there are things that the audience needs to know. So Whoppie was very serious and in a deep trance of needing to knjow the real truth and she's getting a bubbleheaded presentation, and a navitee, of sorts. Listen, if you were a trial lawyer, a trial judge, who did such cases as Pirro claims to have, then maybe Whoppie is thinking 'we are finally getting truth'. And she encounters someone who says 'trump derangement syndrome' which is a kind of sad thing to say to a real person who is actually having you on your show to plug your book which has some really really deep and serious information that is very well documented with a long list of references, in old-school fashion (it's not a fluff book).

So Whoppie was all like 'we are fianlly going to get some truth', and Pirro was all like 'oh my oh my I'm here on The View and I'm doing the giddy gossip thing.'

Whoppie was not in a giddy gossip mode so she went right to the point 'tell us about the deep state.'

Whoppie actually said the phrase 'Deep State'.

I don't even like to use that phrase. First, it's not really true.

So Whoppie actually asked about the deep state. She was already loaded for bear (meaning ready to do battle). And she wanted to know if Pirro was just going on with crap that we sometimes get from people writing about politics or government.

In the real world we can't really label people like that. We couldn't say 'oh ya, I know that there is a so-called deep state and the so-and-so official is in it.'

We can say that it seems as though there is a deep state. Or that the effect of the collective behavior of the aggregation of the common corruptions of greed and envy make an effect that seems sa though there is some grand conspiracy, but if we start to say that, yes, we know that this is true that they are a group and they even have a name for themselves, I'd ask 'Just one group?'

or 'only one name'?

These kinds of deeply embedded systems of graft and corruption are rarely so easy to catalog or to explain.

Whoppie's modivation?

I suppose perhaps Whoppie was hoping for clarity and what she got instead was a giddy college girl behavior. Someone drops a troubling book about 'the deep state' and we get virtue signaling and politics. These accusations about a so-called deep state are really rather troubling. I do not doubt that there are various levels of different profiteering going on and I do not doubt that there may be multiple conspiracies that might seem to be criminal. But it isn't for me to write a list of charges and hand it over to a prosecutor. Why? Because I could maybe be a witness, if I had seen anything real. But I am not a prosecutor, nor an officer of Justice. So it's not my part to give that list of charges. And if I do that I will have to face the possible onslaught of law suits from aggrieved parties. And here is another thing, that you cant' really read in a book about social science (even a literary farce, like my social science of Corruptology): some systems really are corrupt. And it's obvious. You get no real justice there, it is a shakedown. You have to just pay the man. (it might not be a man). There is no other option. In America we like to pretend like it is never really like that. It's the you can't fight city hall point of view that we really must use when dealing with those who know have rigidity in their acessments, mostly for taxes and for traffic or parking violations.

Usually these are limited systems, systems of small importance but shared and common for all, like parking ticket systems. If you don't pay you do not get your license. why? Because most people need a space when they need a space and they do not park illegally and so they don't rack-up tons of tickets, and they obey the parking regulations. And the ones who don't are usually egregious and think themselves above it all and really don't get any sympathy for their indiscretions.

OK, so as far as Pirro and the deep state and Whoppie: I would say that Whoppie probably didn't like the phrase 'Trump derangement syndrome' and that triggered her. And she probably was troubled by the things that Pirro discusses in her new book, it may be a rather red-pill book, and Whoppie is wondering if all that is contained within Pirro's book just a grand conspiracy theory? And instead of letting Pirro discuss it, Whoppie maybe was like 'I am not doing this, not when this is just a Trump partisan.' Remember, Whoppie has always been a democrat rah rah girl. (she's always been very paritsanly democratic, or social justice liberal). Maybe Whoppie was thinking 'all this stuff she writes about might just be a conspiracy theory, and I'm not going to let her detail it here for my audience. I'm going to protect my audience from her.' I can't speak for Whoppie.

how Pirro messed up

Pirro was completely clueless as to the mood of Ms. Goldberg. Pirro shoud have understood how troubling the things in her book are for those unfamiliar wiht Pirro's topics. Pirro shouldn't have been there red pilling people and also doing the bubbly giddy-talk thing. It's too dark a subject, the news of it is too disturbing for people to comprehend. I have to also say, in modification to what I wrote before, that Pirro really should smarten up about these things.

Jesus went to the temple and got hostility by speaking the truth. That is the way of the world, and humans are often combative so that they can try and maintain their happy-place bubble.

I think Whoppies bubble must be popped by now. She must understand that some on 'her side' are actually kind of abomininable in the way that they behave. I don't think that Whoppie is part of that. But it must be all around her and she is blind to it, clueless about it. Pirro is a real threat because if her book is truthful, the people like Whoppie are rather obligated to go along wiht these efforts to root out that ancient evil. But if that is presented with a caveat of 'and vote for Donald Trump', it's reasonable to say 'GTFO' to someone who demands your vote as well.

Yes it is true that bad people may be in governance, and using it for their own selfish interests. No, it is not true, that I have to vote for the candidate who you say.

Whoppie has to know that a lot of what Pirro writes of is factual. It must be very hard for Whoppie right now. She has to be understanding some things by now. So she attacks the messenger.

Some say that Whoppie 'had to know' about Harvey. Why? Why did she have to know? Celebrities live in a bubble, that's also a constant larp. They are great at performing. You peal back the onion and there is nothing there? How do we know. They have a persona for the public, a persona for their coworkers. Wasn't Wiensteen more a coworker? Or were she and he intimate? Unless she was pimping for him, she is blameless, isn't she?

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