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And did he ever even get to that part about 'helmet safety' and that the guy in the photo wasn't wearing one?

Oh, no, yet another topic for the echo factory to pretend that people care about and repeat over and over.

 
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             fun
         than wading
         in through the chan spam.
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It's Springtime but chilly

We got a lot of rain the last two months, and that's fine because it wasn't snow!


April 22, 2024
12:17 PM EST

Winter seems to have passed

A lot can happen in a year. I used to update these pages all the time. Maybe I could start doing that again?

Today was the day of setting the clocks forward.


March 10, 2024
10:35 PM EST

Winter 2024



I would go back to work if I had an offer.

No one who contacts me about work seems to provide any serious prospects, like they are just hazing me..



Avoiding discord

The realization that much of what you find on line is just bots messing with people and trying to train them to be ineffective at debate by making them revert to insults, putdowns, and sub-human behavior makes social media seem to be a wasteland. It is best to not participate in that.

All the rain could have been snow!
2024!

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Political and Media Inanity
by Truck-u-later

Truck-u-later

in this column Truck-u-later steps in deeper . . .

well most news was about the raid a few weeks ago, I read up on what I could find.

I read up on it but I didn't try to spend too much time dwelling on it.

I wrote some things. But I can only observe these things. I wish not to be seen as being one who understands what it going on in the world these days. I try to learn what happens and try less to 'splain about the peeps involved. That whole 'It's them!' finger pointing is bogus and discordant to an eccumenical and open hearth world view.

And those who seek to live within a meta where they rule the world as a cartoon avatar persona . . . and do their pyramid scheme money-thang and their virtuality as if it's real . . . They do as they will and I have no say over their futures. So why do they pretend to have a say over mine?

The answer is: that if they live within a meta, then their rules are for them there. Outside of that, in the real world, those of us who aren't crazy with self-entitled ideation, and wealth beyond measure that enables us to put the equipment on, and all of it's tethering and attachments and live within that matrix world . . . all of us who do not wish to join them in what seems to be a depraved cult of wish fulfillment cooupled with a magical point of view about the fate of peoples and persons . . . all of us who have not gone crazy like that . . . you can't really expect us to let you carry on and try to rule us from within your cage of technology?

video gaming morphed into 'meta world creation' because the games were too depraved that had the cool world layouts that people like. The puzzles one loves to solve, and the cool graphics that one wants to see were those times interspersed with simulated acting out of depraved behaviors, like having to kill all the other characters in the scene before one moves on to the next level.

So at some point you trained yourself to not do it, to click through the depravity as if it's not there, and maybe miss a creepy backstory. I gave up playing those kinds of games, and I still ike to watch old replays, but I fast forward through the gun fight parts, the ghouls who hound Lara Croft in the end levels of, say Tomb Raider aniversary are tiresome and almost designed to make the players hate this kind of depravity in a game, as if the writers are telling their funders ;Really, a kill anything that seems alive simulation? Like clones could never be born without a need to kill everything else in the proximity from where it emerged? Well, we all know what happend to the Lora Croft franchise, and most video games.

But the graphics can be compelling and fun, so people still get some enjoyment out of it.

And those who think that they can rule from within a meta? they have the persona of the villianous ancient ghoul who haunts Laura through out here travels. Watch a walk through of tomb Raider Aniversary. Feel free to fast forward through the psychopathic parts. But do listen to the banter and the dialog. Spoiler alert: Laura has a lot of soul searching to do.

Aug 29, 2022


Tell us
how
you really feel







蠱 work on what has been spoiled

sometimes you just need to remove kruft.

Politics never ends but sometimes it's better to remain mute. Mostly when there is nothing needing or wanting to be said.


but that is no one, that has
not hapened to anyone
you made it up.

thankfully true.

We move along. We keep doing for ourselves. We survive. We don't let the world define who and what we are, or how we feel, or what any of this really means.

And if they have bad humor, and will not forgive they will hate you then.


but at least in that
story they leave you 
alone after all of that


They dont' always leave you alone. It seems they still sometimes want to connect to try to draw that cray cray narrative out one more time. And you have to explain that, no, sorry, this is a bit. You caught me while I was writing a character, that's not me. I am using tht as a dialog in a paly that I'm having my character write inside of his narrative, he's writing his own play about a guy writing a play.

It's like he feeds on it, I get bothered that he lets me go on with it.




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I speak
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I know that there is no one there.
I'm not really talking to myself
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Quid pro NOT
Internet is Water

Oh, Julian
He was a big jerk
and now there (and now . . . and now)
now they're
shutting off his web
      chorus in an crescendo
  shutting off his web
        shutting off his web
           shutting off is web
  chorus descending:
      now there
        now there
           now they are

He's got a great big mouth
 now there
   now there
    now they are
    
    
    here there everywhere
    she shows up
    and no one care
    here there everywhere
    she shows up
    and no one care
    
and now they're
shutting off his web.
        (in a 'I really mean it,
        he really means it' sytle
        and a echoing voice banter 
        AKA schmaltzzy showtunes
         of a cringeworthy kind)

It's a quid pro quo
just the way
the wind blow
if you leave and have to go
to the ecuador adorio
don't cha know
that they're that they're

that they're that they're
that they're that they're

If you believe in Liberty
and you think that people are free
then what is it he's doing to be
having to have his cable unplugged

Quid Pro
  Quid Pro
   Quid Pro Quo
    You want something done
    just tell them where to go
    tell them where to go?
    is that a first punch to throw?
    Tell them where to go?
    Let's make a dealleo
    
Quito
Ecuador
adealleo
  the chorus sings along,
  as if on surfboards
  and loving love (they are
  just an etherial
  hullcinatory
  side track of the music)
  
Quito Ecuador Adealleo
  Quito Ecuador Adealleo
    Have another mealleo
     
Quito Ecuador Adealleo
  Quito Ecuador Adealleo
    Have another mealleo

    a voice, as if from an old
    television moive
    about 1940's
     "I'll trade you two red
     states for 
     five south sea oil fields"
     
     another voice, as if they've tried
     to change the channel,
     but it's the same production quality
     "Weeds grow really fast here."
     scenes of a dessert.
     Scenes of endless arrays of solar cells
     covering the whole landscape
     
Quito Ecuador Adealleo
  Quito Ecuador Adealleo
     
     
Quid Pro Quo
Quito
Embassay
adealleo

Quid pro Quo
Quito
Addealleo

  Giant Squid
    Adealleo
  Giant Squid
    Adealleo
    
     A parady of the voice of
      Squidward, the Trademarked
      hollywood squid,
      or get Bumkis to come and 
      do the voice over . . . 
      
  Or get someone to
   imidate
    Milton Beryle

Oh,
Julian
Oh, Julian
Where ya been?
You still ain't seen the sun.

and your life 
can't be much fun
and very few people think 
your are hero
but we see you as a victim
of an indifferent opposition
to the fowl deals
of the harbor seals
seals the meals
self deals


Oh, 
Julian
Oh,
where ya been?
Around the web
and back again?
Do you think they will
attack again?
Climbing the wall?

Oh,
Julian
Oh,
Where will you go?
If the sky turns to rain
it might then turn to snow?
Where will you you?
the televisions
droning on . . . 
a sad propaganda song

Quid pro quo
dealleo?
Do I like them?
Don't you know?

Quid pro quo
addealleo
you still ain't
a hero

   a voice, as a continuing
    litany of something assumed . . .
      using 'drone' as a transitive verb
       
        

Julian
where have you been?
We wish you could
go home

Julian
where have you been
we wish you could
go home

Julian
how can they
cut off your cable?
Didn't you pay?

Julian
aren't they still your friend?
or is it another Quid pro Quo?

They let you go on for years and years
on and on
one leak here
one leak there
what a revelation
every where
I'm not saying
that I want to unknow
drag us from our slumber
Summer time is often slow.

One leak here
what we can't unknow
even though I read
your not a hero.

Work on what has been spoiled

In a world 
of no heroes
we can be human
and treat people right
 
 someone 
 whose just being a stooly
 you provoke
 they want to fight
 
 you provoke
 they want to fight
 
 why, oh no
 didn't they fly a drone?
 Because it would be
 a criminal act
 
 Why, oh no
 didn't they just . . .
 because it wold be a criminal act
 
 know it all will tell ya . . .
 and he might get most of the facts of the story wrong
 but you can see
 where his heart is
 he's a true believer 
 in something.
 That they want to believe
 in their elegant lady
 that she lies just like breathing
 they don't want to hear it
 That she treats other people
 deploribly
 but they best not express
 deploration (is that even a word?)
 That they best just
 be dumbed down, paste on a smile
 never a frown.
 Just folks being folks
 or dullardard roupes, 
 cracked open yokes?
 ready to fry and put on the fire
 the candidate is a constant liar.
 
    Get those lawyers over here.
    Shut this thing down
    we can't have the candidate
    portrayed as a creepy clown
    
     Get those lawyeres,
     or change the law
     
       no, really,
       you can't say that the
       candidate is a constant
       liar because you didn't
       get this approved 
       as copy from
       the shaddows, where
       daggers
       shaddows, where daggers.
       Using drone as a verb
       She uses drone as a verb.
       Is there any more reason
       to not vote for her
       she uses drone as a verb.
       
       Drone him?
       F_ck You!
       Drone him?
       Screw You.
       Don't drone
       anyone in their home
       Don't turn a wedding
       into a funeral.
          
    He's not a creepy clown
    Can't you see he as a frown
    it's a sad clown,
    a Robin clown
    wondering the hall
    feeling down
    
    He's not a creepy clown
    He's a sad and crying clown.
    Can't you see, the comic's down?
    gloom time, sad rhyme,
    he's not a creepy clown.
    
    Sad Clown, laugh
    force you to 
    take a bath.
    Sad Clown, smile
    or you won't get paid
    for a long while
    Sad Clown, dance
    even though your joints are tired,
    tallent expired.
    Sad Clown, laugh
    force you to 
    take bath (reports are that financial difficulties drove . . . to
     have unreported anziety and he
     was devastated by the cancellation
     of his sindicated show so he . . . )
     
     
  the music changes.   
     
 If you don't like creepy leaks
 of things that you said that make you look a creep
 don't be a creep
 
 If you don't like
 creepy leaks
 of things that you emailed 
 that make you sound like a creep
 don't be a creep in your emails.
 
 Say you are a creep
 you don't know that you're a creep
 we all have to say,
 read them and weep
 but if you weren't a creep
 the emails should show
 that you were just
 regular joe being joe.
 
 Creep of the ball
 creep of the week
 leaking dam
 the spiritually meek
 
 if you don't want to be
 seen as a creep
 don't write in your emails
 just like a creep.
 
 Some things can't be 
 forgotten
 once known.
 Work on what has been spoiled
 
 No one should have ever expected that
 it wasn't just the whole wide world
 reading everything that you do.
 
 You'd like privacy.
 They'll leave you alone
 if you don't act like a creep
 
 
 
 
 At least that's the theory.
 
 What's the real truth?
 Even wikileaks can't tell you that.
 
 Does Julian deserve Internet?
 I think it's kind of an essential thing.
 He's not a man of weapons and information
 is only toxic when it concerns toxic people
 who should know better and
 it holds them up to standards that the world shuns.
 
 You can't say 'oh, this horrible septic leak of filth
 in the world in need of immediate attention, but we learned 
 about it through what some see as illegal methods, 
 so we have to pretend like it does not exist
 and let the flies fester about . . .'
 
 No. Work on What has been spoiled
 Latly what that is seems obvious.
 
 Give Julian back his Internet.
 And let him stand in the sunlight.
 
 even if he's maybe a little creepy
 to some people himself, not wanting that,
 not realizing, kind of like
 every other human.
 
 Forgive as we forgive.
 Funny that just before the
 election, because he's on
 a rampage of giving out
 details on 
 work needing to be done
 on what has been spoiled,
 suddenly they shut him off.
 
 Not very nice people
 even a little bit
 are they?

 
 
He cancels
his cable

Game Sculpture

I know that the promise is here to show you things, and the promise was made so why the holdup? Just spinning wheels with scant else but 'demonstration'

Maybe because it is not yet the season of video games?

Oh cold radio rain, the blare of dispairing envy explodes somewhere and then makes us all glow in our joints, oh the excrutiating blame . . . none of this is real.


11:20
October 10, 2016
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10 OCT 2016

 

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"I'm a bot 
I'm a bot
I'm a botobber
I'm a bot 
I'm a bot
I'm a botobber"

"I'm a bot 
I'm a bot
I'm a botobber
I'm a bot 
I'm a bot
I'm a botobber"

"I am a bot 
I am a bot"
he says.


"I am a bot 
I am a bot"
he says.

"Tell you what's hot,
tell you what's not.
I am a bot"
he says.

"blinking and posting all day
I've really got
nothing to day
a vending machine for spam
that is
just who I am
I am a bot
tell you what is not
I am a bot
I tell yo what is not."

Can a robot lie?
Is he your guy?
Can a process die?
Is she your lie?

"I'm a bot 
I'm a bot
I'm a botobber
I'm a bot 
I'm a bot
I'm a botobber"
botobber?
why not 'Boctobber?
I'm a bot, not a boct.
these are draft lyrics
they can hardly be a boche
bouch?

wy not rocktober?
It's been done.
wy not Wyoming?
why not?




selectors


March 11, 2015


clean water, even for enemies.

if you have this attitude, you won't need this attitude.

delete your delusions.
Music of
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Dance to the Jam if you want to! 
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    Lovers
    and
    fighters
    are often the same
    



  


Please visit my DEMOS


Oh my friend?
How have you been?
Is this a story?
Do you
still adore
me?

Oh my confidant
tell me what they say
that's not
the same that they say
when you ask them
on a different day.

Oh my friend?
How have you been?
If you are a jerk
a jerk at work
doesn't mean you work
is anyless or more bisserkker

Ah, Julian
a modern berrserker?
Why did they say then
you were a creepy lurker?

Leak leak lead
drip drip drip
equal protection
zip the zip

Leak, spill, toiled
work on what was spoiled
Leak, drain, sewage plant
read emails of quid pro grant

he ha who?
really is it you?

oh my friend?
not my friend, I never knew you.
I loved you once.

not my friend.
I loved you once.
not my friend.
I loved you once.
not my friend.
Are'nt you suppose to drown?

not my friend.
I loved you once.
not my friend.
I loved you once.
not my friend.
Are'nt you supposed to
play the roll
of the morbiddly sad clown?


The commedy writer can't write this part
Even though it's billed as the 
feel good movie of the season
no one can hid the fact
of the clown's sudden breakdown.
Wondering along the foggy breakwater
towards full seas raging before the storm.
The commedy writer can
try to go to that lonely place apart
and even park at the same sanctuary,
wonder down that same solitary path
towards that fogged over beach,
sea weed too thick tho wald through
Sand crabs in mass moving along the shore
all in the same direction.
Sad commedian off in the stormy fog rolling along,
clouds and thundering rain,
giant waves break and yet the sad-clown
is somehow above it all
like he could walk upon the sea
"these waves don't mean
anything to me."

The commedy writer can't write this part.
The sad clown has to do this all as improv.
He has no script other than that which he wrote in tears and blood
from the many scenes he endured a knife in his back
brutalized at band camp,
soda can sprayed on him 
just before the open mic 
stand up
and he was angry clown
that night
soda can? Shook it up
sprayed it all over
dick the director's son
who had demanded to sit in the front row.
His name wasn't richard, but he was a dick.

And the crowd raved.
the appearances started rolling in.
If he played the game he would win
and if he wanted it it would demand he be in it.
If there was a commedy contest, he would win it.
It went on like this for manymany years.
But still our man was filled with fears.
You can't write the scene for this guy
if you did it would be a lie.
You can't know what he would say.
An inauthentic script for which none will pay.
YOu have to just reach out your hand,
pull him back from the flowing sand.
Pull him up from the storm tossed sea
if you see him, set him free.
We don't care if your not funny
We love you any way.
Even if what you say
is some times cringe worthy.
Brillient clown
or undiagnosed Turrets?
A funny guy 
with no regrets?
A sad clown, you can't write his part
Don't even try, don't you start 
      (a line that just rhymes 
       can be deleted 
       and never repeated.)

Sad clown drugged and dancing at the rave
Pirhouettes now that he is saved.
He always acted as a kind person should behave.
But some times when he was baudy the critics raved
bad reviews
clients eschew.
Career wanes.
Bill-collector . . . comes calling . . . saying
"Where are my donuts. I need more donuts.
Nothing is free
in this eternity.
Where is my stash?
Cuff me some cash?
Just try to make a mad dash,
see where it gets you."

Sad clown
someone reaches out his hand to you
you slap it.
You are weeping about your friend
he had that pure thing that doesn't end
it's manna for the heart
and you never need to say "don't start!"
because he always had inciteful things to say
and all that laughter
made pain go away.
He laughed so hard
he had to put him self in a seat
as commedic sets go,
that other clowns set was complete.
And there was a guy who was a genius
who could think on his feat.
The script would leave the part for him blank.
If he bombed and the performance was rank
There wsan't any troble anyone would make.
They'd just cue it all up and do another take.

Ah, sad clown.
The world cries when you died.
And your friend is wondering along
along a storm tossed jetty 
and thinking about Ophelia
on account of your suicide
and can you even be there ever
as a ghost?
or does that suicide make yhou a bad choice
for the part of the redemptive spirit?
Resurrected just for the part.
A player with a purer heart?
Could do it better?

The writer is writing the story
but it's starting to bore me . . .
so I may be tell it better
another day.
That sad clown
on the jetty for now
must stay

raging sea.
Someone far off, along the parkinglot spies him.
They are going to send someone out to bring him in from the storm.

Commedian nervous breakdown?
I can't write that dialog.
       
       
       
   Live your life
in constant resurrection!


    Fear the Lord ~ ⏲⏱⏰⏲⏱⏰⏰⏲⏱⏰⏰
 But He's always good to you ~ ; )
     so
 

Praise the Lord!

recommended for further study: Psalm 91. Psalm 45. Psalm 37. Psalm 110. Psalm 91

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Poem Shards

just who reads, who writes these poems?
off a mountain road the poet roams
but only in a poem.

Realizing that the empty 
is empty
and not needing anything there.

just who shows up and for what?
I'm lonely or am alone or what does it matter?
driving off towards the nothing
walking along the nowhere path
up high
sure, it's a pretty view
but seen it, done it, jaded, back to the air port
he flew
his fantasy of happy vacation was through.


The deep snow.

The deep snow. She doesn't know how deep. She didn't think about it. Depth of snow no one know in rills and hollows where you shouldn't go when the storm is fierce and the night is cold even you shouldn't be so bold. poem is from 2012 short story titled Blizzard Baby The morning light is hued in cold awareness. Warming in the sun the bunny explores the snow covered lawn. The tracks melt by mid morning. Bunny doesn't know what the song means, anyway. This giant bubble that we call awareness? How could it have been formed? Seemingly hollow, it's filled up with you reading this and wondering where does this idle poet get his idle hours to spew out this bubble web of hollowness? 🚦 🚧 🚨 🚩 🚪 🚫 🚬 🚭 🚮 🚯 🚰 🚱 🚲 🌛 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 sometimes there is beauty within the fragments . . . 🌜🌜🌜🌝🌛🌛🌛 Sprongg . . . onng . . . ongg ga Her tired morning seems more like poetry than anything you can find on a blog. Bark Bark. Bark Bark. Tree Bark Bark. Bark Bark. Dog 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 Woof and woe🌝 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 Space Ship snowman floats off towards Billy Perilli, writer of all of the things on this blog. 🌜🌜🌜🌝🌛🌛🌛

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Coders Edge

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Fedora 40

After 40 different versions what can one say about it anymore? It's installed in all my systems, a day earlier. There are a few minor issues, but no show stoppers.

I did some stuff with lvm to resize a root area. That took a very long time. It's on a machine that maybe just should be retired . . .


April 22, 2024
12:02 PM

Fedora Core 38 beta

Ya, I decided to load Fedora Core 38 Beta about a month ago, and this machine kept shutting down . . . I think I finally fixed it. Tomorrow is the big release day for the Fedora Core 38. My production workstation is still running FC37. I don't know if I'll jump right on it right away. . .

my server is still resetting, or maybe I have it fixed. I decided to just remove plasma-desktop, as I don't use it. The journals were giving all kinds of errors with that, and I think that might have been the issue, conflicting with the gdm that I do use. Worst case I'd just go to runlevel 3 but, as I said in another column, I don't really even know if anyone views these pages anyway.

My production box would upgrade but the dnf says it would downgrade grum and associated tools, and that's never a good thing to do. I'm just not going to do it! anyway I'll check tomorrow when the offical release is and probably do it then. If I'm in the mood.

So now I've run every version of Fedora serving this website! that's a long time.


April 17, 2023 8:28 PM EST


here is from a year ago:

Fedora Core 36 beta

It took some time to figure out how to defeat the new screensaver built in, but I was able to. It's the biggest downside to the new Gnome.

I set the keybindings to something I don't use, and then put in a custom keybinding to use the old tool.

There are other minor things that annoy too, like the restoration of a deleted file that I always have to delete again on every FC core upgrade. The file is name camera-shutte.oga. It's in /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo

1:12 AM EST 9 April, 2022 

At the precipice of coding.

a mountain trail often has a place with a great view and a perilous fall if you wonder just a bit too far to one side of the trail. It's called a precipice. It's not a scary place. It's a safe place that one passes through.


OK, so I've done an update to FC34.

the biggest issue was . . . . drum roll . . .a lock up of gnome.

and if i clicked on the activities button I would need to reload (log out log back in).

I was able to run stuff without that, and thus determined a list of files that might need to be removed. I did as full reinstall of gnome as such:

dnf reinstall gnome

then I did a

dnf list installed |grep fc33

which gave me a list of files to consider uninstalling.

from that I got the following:

first odd issue:

sudo was not at first working! I had to install it! I kept the configuration file so I have my preferences still set up.

dnf install sudo                                                                                                                                                                          dnf reinstall gnome-*                                                                                                                                                                       dnf reinstall kde*                                                                                                                                                                          dnf reinstall NetworkManager*                                                                                                                                                               dnf remove gnome-screensaver                                                                                                                                                               dnf remove gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-20.04.0-2.fc33.noarch                                                                                                                       dnf remove xorg-x11-xkb-extras-7.7-33.fc33.x86_64                                                                                                                                          dnf remove compat-openssl10-1:1.0.2o-11.fc33.x86_64                                                                                                                                        dnf remove mozjs60-60.9.0-7.fc33.x86_64                             

there are still some fc33 packages, (I also looked for fc32 packages, anything older that was gnome)

sudo dnf list installed |grep fc33
biber.noarch                                         2.14-4.fc33                            @fedora               
gamin.x86_64                                         0.1.10-37.fc33                         @fedora               
libgta.x86_64                                        1.0.9-5.fc33                           @fedora 

if removing a package also removed large numbers of other packages, I left it. For each of the few that I did remove, I always would make sure by reading what would happen before agreeing to the transaction.

now the gnome-shell is working and it doesn't lock up. So which of the packages that I removed made the difference? I am not sure.

and so after just a few short hours of install, I've got my system working in away that seems normal.

the new gnome shell moves the icons to the bottom of the screen.

I find gnome-shell to be annoyingly poppy at times. I tend to do things rapidly, and all the popping can be nauseating.

It is helpful to learn how to use dnf. I've found that the reverse history stuff works as long as you haven't made too many changes. It's a dicey, though, to try and go back to an older revision but I did it ONCE. Next time it didn't work out so well. AT that point it was installing dnf and yum from rpms.

and I had success. It's the kind of thing that when you know how to do it . . .

but there was one other trick that I needed and it was a scary way to reset a password and I did discover how to do it. I'm not sharing that one (barely remember) it's like these things exist in a nether, and it's best to . . . let the knowledge fade unless you need it. It's too scary to dwell in that space.

anyway, gnome shell is working. It's not flighty and hanging up. And all it took was to remove the old packages of gnome that might conflict with it. And now I can continue with my review.


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