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And did he ever even get to that part about 'helmet safety' and that the guy in the photo wasn't wearing one?

Oh, no, yet another topic for the echo factory to pretend that people care about and repeat over and over.

 
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I don't post most of my speculations and conjectures.

. . . but they must feel vanquished and fear that their time is soon through. They must, I'm guessing that they must? And will they lash out at the rest of us if they get done to them what they did to, for example, Roger or General Flynn?

At any point the leaders of the Democrats could say 'we were wrong to take it this far, let us not now take this any farther.' and would the public that that without explanation? By now there isn't anything that the Democrats can do except understand what they have done wrong and do a 'mea culpa' (sp?) and say Ya, what the F with the Adam Bugyes? and we could say 'now be nice . . . ' but chuckle hillariously on the inside. This isn't about looking for retribution it's about getting the government to work like it is supposed to work. A small group of inside guys can't just decide 'we don't like what the president likes so we'll just call it treason'. The don't get to do that. Some say arrests will happen sooner but I say that they will take their time. So that when we win in the end no one can ever say it was a pogram. We are not Stalin, this is not the 1930s. we don't have any 'captialist' countries to infiltrate and invade (he jumps the shark at the end?)

They could be Menshes. But they aren't.



I don't post most of my speculations and conjectures. Nor do I say things that I know are patently false as if they are true and then say 'it could be . . .I could be wrong' knowing full well that I am wrong . . .

And I always try to convey the idea that my literature (ha ha) that I give to you (ha ha ha) here isn't a narrative of 'truth', it's a fictional narrative woven with various literal truths, no wait, not that, truths of litterature ? truthish story-telling? theory of teaching moral civic behavior? Theory of teaching didactic morality wihtout being a sellout to the power? You won't get your stuff published . . . if you don't have the cash to pay the printers. And if the printers don't like what they are reading . . . you know who is it that owns the print shop and are they really your frenz? See how I make stuff up? I make it up. But go to a print shop and just see if you stuff is really secure at all. When you put it on the scanner, how do you know? So what do you do? If you need something printed?

What you do is you recognize that my narrative of literature in the genres of 'social-science-fiction-horror-fiction (sometimes, like bug-eyed adam shittt and his freak-show hearings, a real horra-shoe) (a really big shoe)

if you need it printed you put the fowl conjecture of worry out of your head, you bring it over, you get it printed. YOu don't think about politics. You don't worry about what 'they' think. You just do it and say 'why, that's just a story. These people don't care what I print.

And then if they did care. They don't like what they are seeing (are they even looking at it?) and they feel hurt by your messaging? I mean you gotta know that everything you are doing is being watched and followed by someone if you are whacky person with far out ideas who uses affirmative vocal tensing of falsehood as conjecture in a way that , if you paused it, you might think that the person isn't just doing a bit. Here is the part where he pretneds that he believes in ship-shapping (he's a neat freak?) 'Ship-shaping is real' (and a meme of someone making a ship in a bottle? behind him,like the vinyette from a postage stamp circa 1935 when stamps were really cool and valuble?)

maybe like that. Maybe. Anyhoo . . . so ya, there are those who think that they can control 'the message'. They don't like the explosion of production that has occured in messages that they don't control. And they had a virtual monopoly on various forms of producing content, if not the copyrighting of content (so they would make the service to have a particular kind of media produced, and as well they would produce their own, at some other cost to them, but they were the print-shop-boys, with the smell of ink and back room cigar-filled places. But the smoke, that used to fill the rooms, was basically banned (and that's a good thing) so . . . but the rooms are still full of the miasma of the cray-cray of those, like Ray and his cray-cray day which could be a parody story akin to Harold and the Purple Crayon, a classic story. But maybe not.

So, ya, that whole paraanoia thing. You know they can do the larp of being that worst case guy who flips, flips out, acts all Ray-thecray-cray-day Ray who makes up shit in a pod cast (that is his purple crayon?) and it all comes true . . . Pleadians at the Taco stand? Dance rave of grey aliens at a beach party at South Beach? Dance rave of grey aleins at a book store in North Beach? A talk show host with an umbrela standing on the seat of a bike while riding on a wire wiht an elephant way high up above the sky? Grey and the Cray-cray Ray? How do you think that Ray got so cray-cray? Is it wrong of us to have a character who is called 'cray-cray' when that's something that should be reserved for private conversations between friends about someoen who they actualy care about and know? to indicate that . . . they have gone off to the dark side of the Moon? Or they are 'luney' or other such phrases. What I would say, and I think it's often true, about people who seem to be out of sorts . . . is that they seem to be undergoing some kind of a reaction of Rhus (plants) and suffering from a brain effect of alkoloids. One might say that they are 'suffering'' (but if they are laughing histerically, is that suffering?) from 'alkoloid poisoning'. And if they collect and distribute that they call it a drug, and LSD is clearly a drug and should be regulated and controlled but only to discourage it's unfettered use by people who do not know what they are doing and clearly do not know better than to not indulge. But when they read about it, maybe they are about 14. They'are a 'smart kid' (which kid isn't, really, but htey show you what they think you'll understand). They read a lot. They wonder if 'magic' is real? Does prayer really work (yes it does)? Does magic: Magic, young mind, is the perception of that you do not understand explained in a way that you don't really need to know how it goes on. In other words if magic 'works' there is a method to it that involves not really deception, but 'partial awareness' It's a lack of understanding and an explanation of 'oh, I see', vooila! (the double typed 'o' makes it look like I don't know how to spell).

Just remember you don't have to share all your stories with the world. Nor do you need to understand how something happens to see it happen. You say 'this is magic, the sun rises everyday', the Sun is a gawd. Someone else says 'no it isn't, it's a mass of matter which is also energy, it glows like a lightbulb except on a much much brigter and larger scale and in a different way but energy is energy and it can neither be created nor destroyed, one of the basic points of Thermal-dynamics and no energy that doesn't already exist can ever be created or harvasted. . .

And the baby, unknowing, stares up at their care giver who is spouting out doctrinaire pronoucnements of science and doesn't really get it what the old guy is saying, but loves to see the light reflecting off their relative's face.

The so-called 'power' takes itself far too seriously. In the end the harvast is a choice that people make about themselves. Which bin do they go into? the wheet or the chaif? But those who suffer under strong delusions might have a difficult time as the rules that they think that they know are all anihillated and the explanations of science prevail in the magic and in the mystic, and all of it that is worthy, right, just, true, and awesome (about which we should all give thanks) will still exist and seem whole, while all the dung-things of ego and overwhelming narcisscistic control freakish 'becasue I said so' dicatorship of rotten-tattors (tattors?) will melt in the warm wind of justice, and all of those enslaved within the gue of falsehood will be washed clean of it, and emerge as aware and awake creatures of what is next. That includes all the people who you current hate and loath if there is anyone. And if so I advise you to try to write a more eccumenical story, and have your retorts and come-backs be inspired instead of plotted.

But what I give in just the paragraph above is but a story. The sad part is that some don't seem able to overcome the Strong Delusions. Prethee that they should dissolve. And to meet it? Resist not? Do the right thing. Message to Adam: your impeachment probe needs to end quickly



anyway.



If d Trump doesn't have due process, then neither does anyone else.

Deer in the headlights-look

Lead follow or get out of the way. And Adam, you're not doing any of that. Get out of the way, your process is bogus. you are a clown-show, a disgrace, and you make the power-elite look like fools and minions of the damned.



this song is from a very long time ago:

You've got that 
deer-in-the-headlights
look about you

you've got that 
deer-in-the-headlights
look about you

you've got that 
deer in the headlights look
I don't know why you're such a crook

you've got that 
deer in the headlights look
I don't know why
I don't know why

maybe give back some of what you took?

I don't know why 
I don't know why

I don't know why you're such a schnook

You've got that 
deer-in-the-headlights
look about you

you've got that 
deer-in-the-headlights
look about you

look about you
look about you
look about you
look about you

(a call to welcome him
into awareness
of that which is about him)




clown show
in the people's house
Drama dawg
in full costume
off his leash.

Nancy, curb your dawg!

Through insight we plan for action!

And in Conclusion

"Sky King, Sky King, do not answer"

 

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forest of you there is a 
sudden jambience 
of your style
lighting up the darkness,
darknessing up the lighting,
it's all good,
in the city of light
and love
in the valley of the
ever-present you
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but a man just like you
ready to leap out of bounds
coming to you from the fringes
of far away laughter
being "magical kind beautiful "
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Don't be lonely.



Did I really write all that?



If Donald Trump doesn't have due process, then neither does anyone else.

my theory: they will rue the day that they let this go through. they are now to be merciliously exposed and shamed for being frauds, more they are patriots to the fatherland of communist marxist ideology than anything else, that is called social suicide. Soo even though I'm a forgiving type, and not a rabid right wing Republican minded john birtch type, the narrative 'seems' true enough now that those who are probably are not going to be putting up with the leftist crap and will demand that we get on with Justice. that would mean that what has been told about will come to fruitition. they will rue the day

Always choose the better narrative

I choose the fictional in some sense, the story of he who dares to say 'these people are a fraud'. It's Moscow 1936? Zombies of morality, the demorts decided to go all in.

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Q at Two
there were 4 Q drops
but the site is still
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and useful for posting.

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Tuesday

Plan for the Holidays!


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Still Trump wins bigly!

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Political and Media Inanity
by Truck-u-later

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in this column Truck-u-later steps in deeper . . .

Hello, it's October and the willful in Washington are being willful, in Washington. Trump is who he is, and 'they' have been out to get him from the start. There is nothing that can be done to convince them aside from just voiting them out but that doesn't work either in some states on account of . . . (on account of what?)

Their success in this matter would be their failure to be for real. Fully owned subsidieries of global-evil-co don't neccessarily think and act and do for themselves, but do what they get told to do.

Oct 4, 2019


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Revelations that are too much information. How does one organize a life time of stuff that, once you die, is just going to be brought to the recycle? What does one do to gain relevance in middle age when the world basically passes over most people. Many are already dead? What is the point of going on?

Certainly not to just leave someone with a maudlin text. Overcoming addictions? You don't need to read my bullshit. Cheer up! Life does go on.

How does one forgive and forget? How does one stop drinking? How does one make their space less a mess? How does one protect themself from obsessive whatever?

Not with a negative put-down vibe, that is for sure. Pick it up, make it better. Spontaneity.

The object of his obsession

doesn't deserve the blow-back

the bad break up with someone who you were never really friends with in the first place. First he was too over the top and now he's too far in the other direction. Who is it really that needs to modify? the one who gets obsessed like that.

The dangers of unexploded ego

The fame-seeker projects his own anger about himself onto someone who used to be the object of his obsession. The person does not look at himself as obsessed, but instead blames someone he doesn't even really know for his obsessive behaviors. The fame-seeker blames the object of his obsession for the problem of fame-seeker having this obsession and instead of getting mad at himself gets mad at the object of his obsession, when, in fact, they don't even know each other and have never even met.


8ch is deplatformed?

a bump in the road? quick to find a new host?

8ch is shutdown. After being attacked for months and months. Most posts were then just shills. gone. never to return?

Jim Watkins made a statement on Twitter.

"8ch is a blank piece of paper" - Jim Watkins

yes , it is. But the people who don't like that kind of a forum tried to run everyone else out of it. Let's see how long there is a hiatis.

Aug 6, 2019



tell us how you really feel . . . . . . well . . . Truck-you-later!


I speak
but there is no one there.
I know that there is no one there.
I'm not really talking to myself
but I know that I'm not talking to anybody else.


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August Tomatoes

In the back yard!

It's August. People are harvasting their tomatoes. Other people don't have any tomatoes. The chipmunks will eat every single one while it's still very tiny. You need a fortified and fenced in garden.

9:12 AM EST
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Aug 29, 2022

Greetings from tree shaded yard!

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for insight
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Praise the Lord for insight given!



Fix your self and the world gets fixed around you


as an example . . . I have tried to do some introspective things as I come into awareness of my own flaws, and recognize the way I act and correct my self and make a better narrative for myself and for others.




you raise me up
from far away
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of you
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Somethings never change
nothing need stay the same
ah, but on a website
the constant change
 is kind-of the point . . . 

change without continuity and tradition is often very hard to manage for those thrust into it. And thus the frame of things gives a place for the change to happen. If you violate that idea then you are coming up with something completely different and maybe no one will want to see your new idea, or use your great, new venue, because it's too far out, and very far away from what they currently care about. It's a nether or a meta and it's merely for a lark? Or does it become the next big thing? As fun as graphics are (CGI) and animation, and making a world to fly around in (like minetest, which is easy when you learn how) ultimately such a meta is a hollow place. It's a distraction during the season of gaming. It allows one to brush up on geometry and math, and architectural design, it gives people training in computer languages, it allows someone to make some graphical ideas, and pass a few hours of time every few days or so . . .

To live within such a realm really isn't possible.

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Poem Shards

just who reads, who writes these poems?
off a mountain road the poet roams
but only in a poem.

Realizing that the empty 
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I'm lonely or am alone or what does it matter?
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The deep snow.

The deep snow. She doesn't know how deep. She didn't think about it. Depth of snow no one know in rills and hollows where you shouldn't go when the storm is fierce and the night is cold even you shouldn't be so bold. poem is from 2012 short story titled Blizzard Baby The morning light is hued in cold awareness. Warming in the sun the bunny explores the snow covered lawn. The tracks melt by mid morning. Bunny doesn't know what the song means, anyway. This giant bubble that we call awareness? How could it have been formed? Seemingly hollow, it's filled up with you reading this and wondering where does this idle poet get his idle hours to spew out this bubble web of hollowness? 🚦 🚧 🚨 🚩 🚪 🚫 🚬 🚭 🚮 🚯 🚰 🚱 🚲 🌛 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 sometimes there is beauty within the fragments . . . 🌜🌜🌜🌝🌛🌛🌛 Sprongg . . . onng . . . ongg ga Her tired morning seems more like poetry than anything you can find on a blog. Bark Bark. Bark Bark. Tree Bark Bark. Bark Bark. Dog 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 Woof and woe🌝 🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌙 🌚 🌛 🌜 🌝. 🚤 🚥 Space Ship snowman floats off towards Billy Perilli, writer of all of the things on this blog. 🌜🌜🌜🌝🌛🌛🌛

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Fedora 40

After 40 different versions what can one say about it anymore? It's installed in all my systems, a day earlier. There are a few minor issues, but no show stoppers.

I did some stuff with lvm to resize a root area. That took a very long time. It's on a machine that maybe just should be retired . . .


April 22, 2024
12:02 PM

Fedora Core 38 beta

Ya, I decided to load Fedora Core 38 Beta about a month ago, and this machine kept shutting down . . . I think I finally fixed it. Tomorrow is the big release day for the Fedora Core 38. My production workstation is still running FC37. I don't know if I'll jump right on it right away. . .

my server is still resetting, or maybe I have it fixed. I decided to just remove plasma-desktop, as I don't use it. The journals were giving all kinds of errors with that, and I think that might have been the issue, conflicting with the gdm that I do use. Worst case I'd just go to runlevel 3 but, as I said in another column, I don't really even know if anyone views these pages anyway.

My production box would upgrade but the dnf says it would downgrade grum and associated tools, and that's never a good thing to do. I'm just not going to do it! anyway I'll check tomorrow when the offical release is and probably do it then. If I'm in the mood.

So now I've run every version of Fedora serving this website! that's a long time.


April 17, 2023 8:28 PM EST


here is from a year ago:

Fedora Core 36 beta

It took some time to figure out how to defeat the new screensaver built in, but I was able to. It's the biggest downside to the new Gnome.

I set the keybindings to something I don't use, and then put in a custom keybinding to use the old tool.

There are other minor things that annoy too, like the restoration of a deleted file that I always have to delete again on every FC core upgrade. The file is name camera-shutte.oga. It's in /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo

1:12 AM EST 9 April, 2022 

At the precipice of coding.

a mountain trail often has a place with a great view and a perilous fall if you wonder just a bit too far to one side of the trail. It's called a precipice. It's not a scary place. It's a safe place that one passes through.


OK, so I've done an update to FC34.

the biggest issue was . . . . drum roll . . .a lock up of gnome.

and if i clicked on the activities button I would need to reload (log out log back in).

I was able to run stuff without that, and thus determined a list of files that might need to be removed. I did as full reinstall of gnome as such:

dnf reinstall gnome

then I did a

dnf list installed |grep fc33

which gave me a list of files to consider uninstalling.

from that I got the following:

first odd issue:

sudo was not at first working! I had to install it! I kept the configuration file so I have my preferences still set up.

dnf install sudo                                                                                                                                                                          dnf reinstall gnome-*                                                                                                                                                                       dnf reinstall kde*                                                                                                                                                                          dnf reinstall NetworkManager*                                                                                                                                                               dnf remove gnome-screensaver                                                                                                                                                               dnf remove gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-20.04.0-2.fc33.noarch                                                                                                                       dnf remove xorg-x11-xkb-extras-7.7-33.fc33.x86_64                                                                                                                                          dnf remove compat-openssl10-1:1.0.2o-11.fc33.x86_64                                                                                                                                        dnf remove mozjs60-60.9.0-7.fc33.x86_64                             

there are still some fc33 packages, (I also looked for fc32 packages, anything older that was gnome)

sudo dnf list installed |grep fc33
biber.noarch                                         2.14-4.fc33                            @fedora               
gamin.x86_64                                         0.1.10-37.fc33                         @fedora               
libgta.x86_64                                        1.0.9-5.fc33                           @fedora 

if removing a package also removed large numbers of other packages, I left it. For each of the few that I did remove, I always would make sure by reading what would happen before agreeing to the transaction.

now the gnome-shell is working and it doesn't lock up. So which of the packages that I removed made the difference? I am not sure.

and so after just a few short hours of install, I've got my system working in away that seems normal.

the new gnome shell moves the icons to the bottom of the screen.

I find gnome-shell to be annoyingly poppy at times. I tend to do things rapidly, and all the popping can be nauseating.

It is helpful to learn how to use dnf. I've found that the reverse history stuff works as long as you haven't made too many changes. It's a dicey, though, to try and go back to an older revision but I did it ONCE. Next time it didn't work out so well. AT that point it was installing dnf and yum from rpms.

and I had success. It's the kind of thing that when you know how to do it . . .

but there was one other trick that I needed and it was a scary way to reset a password and I did discover how to do it. I'm not sharing that one (barely remember) it's like these things exist in a nether, and it's best to . . . let the knowledge fade unless you need it. It's too scary to dwell in that space.

anyway, gnome shell is working. It's not flighty and hanging up. And all it took was to remove the old packages of gnome that might conflict with it. And now I can continue with my review.


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